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For Defence, the Jawun

relationship has already delivered

value in terms of capability build

among its people, Indigenous

employment outcomes, securing a

major procurement contract, and

forging deeper connection to the

organisation’s objectives around

its role in community.

On people and leadership

Defence utilises Jawun as a

development opportunity for

leaders and senior leaders. ‘I am

keen for Defence leadership,

through to middle supervisory

levels, to have a stronger sense of

Indigenous Australia because that

will feed into their commitment

to growing the organisation’s

Indigenous employment and being

committed to the strategies we

have in that area,’ said Dennis.

‘It gives real life to our efforts.’

Dennis has noticed, both among

those who sit around the top table

and others, that people who come

back from Jawun have not only

enjoyed their experience, but they

all believe they have learnt things

they didn’t know before: ‘Without

exception, it has heightened their

awareness and commitment to the

department’s strategies relating

to Indigenous engagement and

employment. It serves a very

practical purpose for me.’

The program is targeted at senior

levels in the organisation and

selection is tied to performance.

It is not limited to a hierarchical

structure though, as Dennis

believes that would limit its impact.

‘I only have people go on it who

have a capacity to influence others

and to lead people—because that’s

what you want in an organisation

of our size.’

Justine Greig, Acting Head People,

Policy & Culture at Defence,

said they get a strong sense of

a suitable candidate through

supervisors, and understanding

what skills and attributes would be

advantageous in particular work

areas: ‘It’s not just about selecting

the candidate, it’s also about

the work area being supported

and being able to influence

those circles on return from

secondment.’

Justine said secondees

demonstrate their capability build

in different ways: ‘Some articulate

how their decision-making

processes have changed and how

they approach problem-solving for

more effective outcomes. Others,

through deep self-reflection,

understand how to work better

as a team and apply that in their

work groups. One described

how it has changed the way he

models himself as a leader. We

consistently see people actively

link their thinking and new-found

perspectives—seeing things

through an Indigenous lens—to

the sorts of outcomes Defence

is trying to achieve.’

On employment

Steve Meekin is Deputy Secretary

and head of the Defence

Intelligence Security Group. His

responsibilities include oversight

of the Joint Defence Facility

Pine Gap, located 30 kilometres

outside Alice Springs. In 2013

Steve attended a Jawun Executive

Visit to inner Sydney, where he

experienced at first hand the

collaboration between Indigenous

organisations in Redfern and

La Perouse and Jawun secondees

from government and corporate

organisations across Australia.

Dennis observed: ‘To work at

Pine Gap requires the highest

level of security clearance in

Australia. Steve’s inner Sydney

experience had a direct impact on

his approach to the employment

of Indigenous Australians at Pine

Gap. He has been a real advocate.’

The first Indigenous employee at

Pine Gap, Nicky Ross, took up his

posting in July 2015. Nicky comes

from the local Alice Springs area

and, in addition to his other duties,

is focused on the provision of

advice on Indigenous issues: ‘We

haven’t had Indigenous Australians

working for Defence in Pine Gap

before,’ said Dennis, ‘so I believe

the Jawun experience does have

a material effect on the way

people see their jobs and their

responsibilities.’

While progress may be slow, its

pace is steadily picking up. Last

year Defence reported a solid

increase in its employment of

Indigenous Australians. They

include cadet Rhiannon Brown,

who is completing a course

in criminology that includes

12 weeks a year at Pine Gap.

On procurement

Dennis attributes a significant

Indigenous procurement contract

to the Jawun partnership. Steve

Grzeskowiak, Deputy Secretary

and head of the Defence

Infrastructure and Estate Group,

took part in a Jawun Executive

Visit to Cape York in 2014.

Dennis said:

It’s one thing for someone

in Steve’s position to have a

commitment to doing more

with Indigenous Australia.

It’s another to actually go on

Jawun, have that personal

experience and come back

with great personal drive and

determination. The spin-

off has been in the group’s

commitment to employ more

Indigenous Australians and it

has fed directly into Steve’s

negotiations with service

providers.

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